I can’t understand how maths should be a created order. That would need a creator, who is superior to logic. But when he isn’t based on logic, how can we try to make claims about this creator and so how we can say that he is a living person? In most cases consciousness is very useless, because everything that can be caused by consciousness, can also be caused by accident.
What’s with an accident superior to logic?
I prefer the buddhistic sight: It makes no sense to ask, how the world came into being.
Message left by sepia on 9:53am, 12/05/2010 GMT
This shows a very poor understanding of what constitutes “evidence”. “I think it looks like it” is not a serious scientific position. Yes, most early scientists (meaning Galileo onwards - the early Greeks and Egyptians were pretty clued-up as well) were Christians and so saw supernatural forces at work. But this is not evidence. And the old teleological arguments for design in nature and the “fine tolerances”, etc, etc are just a form of anthropomorphism. People who cannot deal with the idea that nature can produce order out of nothing must, perforce, invoke an intelligence to account for it. Very limited thinking.
Message left by David on 7:02am, 21/03/2010 GMT
Professor Lennox,
Thank you for putting in “plain English” such a rational and effective explanation for how nature gives evidence of God.
Could such a theme be the topic of another book by your hand? Mathematics is a wonderful example of the order implicit in nature. That humans have been able to see this order and use it to help us explain among ourselves how parts of the universe interconnect underscores the awe I feel toward God. Are you familiar with the writings of John Hammond regarding the emergence of complexity?
I share your opinion and wish that I had your talent and gravitas to be able to persuade those whom I have met and admire that God is, and welcomes them to join His “Body.” I will never forget being asked by one well respected researcher whether I believed “that stuff”, to which I replied, “yes” and went to a weekend retreat rather than starting another set of experiments. I had to thank him for that, as it burned into my memory that I have not been ashamed to claim Christ as my Lord and Saviour. At least once.......
It is a pleasure to listen your talks.
Best Regards,
Joan
Message left by Joan Hanley-Hyde, Ph.D. on 11:03pm, 28/06/2009 GMT
Nice satire David, quite amusing to see the atheist position parodied so well, although perhaps a little mean spirited to them. That was a parody wasn’t it?
Message left by James on 7:24pm, 21/05/2010 GMT